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Post by cardman on Aug 24, 2009 9:32:40 GMT -5
Hey Jaye, you don't owe me any thanks. It was just truth. Young people these days have no respect for anybody. They see people our age, as we are now, and don't understand what we have seen, done, or been through in our lives to get to this age. Pray God they don't have to go through it like that, because I doubt they could take it.
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Post by d3murf on Aug 24, 2009 9:34:50 GMT -5
d3murph: What's with all the violence, man? Clearly, you haven't really spent any time reading these boards, or you would know that there are more than a few dissagreements. Your opinions are not going to be the gospel to everybody. These boards are here for discussion (and there are some good ones), not automatic agreement with one opinion. Jaye does not need me to defend him, but If you bothered to read his posts, you would figure out that he has probably forgotten more about basketball than you will ever know. If I had a pure basketball question, it would be him I'd ask. In the words of the great John Wayne, "If you can't respect your elders, you had better learn to respect your betters." And by the way, what DO you have against us 50 or over people? Are u reading? Or skimming through? I stated that Keyboard Warriorism and Fighting over the internet is flat out lame. Let people have their opinions etc etc..Stated it a couple of times. Your boy Jaye started talking about anonymity and being shielded from butt whoopin' etc etc. It just so happened that I'm the wrong one. I wouldn't start it, but I definitely will seek it out if proposed to me. Anyway I'm only here to talk about the Dream, one of my fav sports franchises. You're right Jaye has forgotten more about basketball...opinions are just one persons view on a subject that has no definitive answer. My view is that Shalee is a better catalyst for the Dream offensively. My opinion will not be swayed...And please with all this elder talk...50 cent lol and what not. If you're an elder why not act like it?!? Once you become aggressive in your talk (or type) It becomes a young mans game. Be careful what you wish for.....THUNDERSTICKS!!!!! Please PM me if your talk directed towards me is not about the Dream. If not, let's debate and still respect each others opinions...
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Post by jaye on Aug 24, 2009 10:15:14 GMT -5
partnah....i'm about tired of this.....you litter you posts with insults and name calling.....then act as if you're the one deserving of respect....i have no problem with anyone here as far as debates....if you're not a keyboard warrior....stop acting like it....you got you own opinion of the dream and their direction.....no problem....but you need to learn to express it without belittling those that don't agree with you....
you want to debate basketball....also no problem.....but this sh*t about pm'ing you....and what you can do.....it's not a young mans game....it's a mans game.....my name is jaye....i live in claxton....everybody on the street knows me....everybody.....i'm not hard to find....
and we can debate and respect each others opinions just fine.....as long as you squash that nonsense of name calling and insults....
bro....lets end this....you keep stating you want me to pm you....you got it....
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Post by nextivorylatta on Aug 24, 2009 10:45:22 GMT -5
dang this is just a message board demurf chll out yu getting to serious about this situation n jaye jus be yourself dont let em get to yu your a veteran on this board hes jus a rookie
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Post by cardman on Aug 24, 2009 13:14:27 GMT -5
d3murph:
You can't have it both ways. I confront you where you where you approach me. If you want to discuss nothing but basketball on these boards, then you could have come to me in a PM in the first place. You don't get to pound your chest in public, and out of the other side of your mouth say you're above all that.
I READ all the posts.
Act like an elder? Old son, you have no clue about my life experiences, and the lessons I have learned. I have learned that I can't take myself all that seriously.
Stick to basketball, and we can discuss and respect each other's views all day long. But, lighten up, man. Its only basketball.
Unlike Jaye, I will not not PM you, and you don't need to bother PMing me as it will lead to nothing constructive, and will only lead to hard feelings. It just isn't worth it.
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Post by cardman on Aug 24, 2009 13:49:53 GMT -5
Jaye, Don't let the schmuck suck you in. Ain't nothing good come out of it.
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Post by jaye on Aug 24, 2009 15:23:54 GMT -5
actually cardman....i didn't pm him to schedule a main event.....i pm'd him to end this nonsense.....and admitted that the "foot in the a**" comment was over he line.....but i don't allow anyone to call me out of my name....in person....on the phone....in print....doesn't matter.....but what i should have done was put it into pm in the first place and spared the board....
i apologize....
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Post by cardman on Aug 24, 2009 15:43:17 GMT -5
I think we all go a little over the line once or twice. But this whole deal went way beyond. Hopefully, it can die now. I probably should have kept out of it in the first place, but the attitude just burned me to my soul. I got enough young guys at work to last me a lifetime, and I just wasn't interested.
If I'd have stayed out of it, it might have died quicker. And I do apologise to the board. If the boards get clogged with garbage like this, we'll end up losing sight of what they're there for. And I don't want people to stay away because we get too hostile with each other. Sorry y'all.
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Post by d3murf on Aug 24, 2009 22:06:41 GMT -5
Jaye, Don't let the schmuck suck you in. Ain't nothing good come out of it. lol what? Listen man, this back & forth was with me and Jaye. Why are u posting to me? Oh I see, you said the young guys at work been beating you up and making fun of you etc. That'll blow by eventually man. Just go to work keep your head down and say "May I take your order?"---and be cool with that....Comprehension skills are at a premium around here. I didn't post anything about you Cardman--my whole response to you was about Jaye...That shows how unimportant you are...I stated I'm here to debate if necessary, give my opinions etc....I'm not with the confrontational typing, but I'm definitely with pushing the action no doubt about that. I'd love to Velcro Cardmans tongue in an attempt to have him stick to his words! Bottom line is, I see the intimidation provided by a bevy of folks on here regarding certain topics. If Shalee is mentioned people fly off the handle and start discrediting her and her fans. Like those people don't count, like they're robots or something. Be prepared to get a taste of your own medicine going at me like that...As for the comment about me being a rookie and Jaye being a veteran, yeah you're right, Except I'm like Angel Mccoughtry and he's Nikki Teasley.....
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Post by jaye on Aug 24, 2009 22:13:41 GMT -5
i tried......
keep my name out of your mouth man....and i'll do the same for you....
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Post by lattafan on Aug 25, 2009 9:55:28 GMT -5
Where is Mod when you need one? There has definitely been some discrediting of Latta on this board as well which is why some have come to her defense. I have no problem with a healthy (healthy being the operative word) discussion or debate but I think all of us have a problem with troll-like behavior which is unhealthy and toxic to a board community. For those who are not familiar with the definition of an internet troll, I've provided it below. We are not "saving lives here" …this is just a wbb message board…it is inappropriate to attempt to threaten or intimidate anyone…it's not entertaining or funny. At this point, I think we all would just like to see all of our guards get decent playing time based on what they bring to the table. We lost on Sunday so adjustments will need to be made going forward. Hope Mique is feeling better soon…we need to be talking about Mique. She needs our fan support right now. I don't care that she didn't play on Sunday…I just want her healthy and getting some rest.
Troll: One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
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Post by cardman on Aug 25, 2009 9:55:42 GMT -5
d3murph:
If you had read to the end, you would have seen that I admitted publicly that I put myself somewhere that I didn't have any business being. You would have seen that I apologized twice publicly.
Your use of the word "you" in your first response to me is what gave me the impression that you were addressing me. My WIFE and I don't even use that term to each other without making it perfectly clear that we are using it as a generic term, let alone anyone else. If you ever read anything I post you will see that the term "you" isn't used by me unless I am addressing someone in particular.
So I will say publicly (as has been all our communication) I appologize for my misunderstanding of your phrasing. I don't think it's what you want, I think you just want the last word. I give it to you. After that, as Jaye said keep my name out your mouth, and I'll do the same.
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Post by d3murf on Aug 25, 2009 10:55:16 GMT -5
Where is Mod when you need one? There has definitely been some discrediting of Latta on this board as well which is why some have come to her defense. I have no problem with a healthy (healthy being the operative word) discussion or debate but I think all of us have a problem with troll-like behavior which is unhealthy and toxic to a board community. For those who are not familiar with the definition of an internet troll, I've provided it below. We are not "saving lives here" …this is just a wbb message board…it is inappropriate to attempt to threaten or intimidate anyone…it's not entertaining or funny. At this point, I think we all would just like to see all of our guards get decent playing time based on what they bring to the table. We lost on Sunday so adjustments will need to be made going forward. Hope Mique is feeling better soon…we need to be talking about Mique. She needs our fan support right now. I don't care that she didn't play on Sunday…I just want her healthy and getting some rest. Troll: One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue. I'm assuming you're talking to Jaye and/or Cardman?!? (I know it's not true because I've read plenty of dialogue between ya'll) It's funny how when people try to play internet hero, they end up on the wrong end of the crossfire. Let me post my original statement in bold, so you can have a further understanding of why you are off basis....... d**n being up in there is one of the better sports experiences period! This is coming from a Falcon season ticket holder. Great Marketing to draw a "Sellout" crowd...In More ways than one. I say it was 50/50 Sparks to Dream fans...With CP3 being the most popular player on the court hands down. She didn't disappoint either--her mannerisms and style are blended will the substance she provides. Glad we have our own superstar in ANGEL!! B Money was on fire like I projected. Izy Ball-Hog Marques was getting it in like usual. Shooting a thousand shots and giving up a thousand points. She hustles though and is a certified scorer. Erica was solid as usual. Sancho was M.I.A. Wish Shalee would have played in the 30 min. range so she could do more penetrating and dishing. That element is missing when Ivory "Latta 3 point shots" is out there. They have way diff. games so it's no use debating with you people about who's more affective. Like an earlier poster said;when "5" is running the point---it's more fluid. Shalee gets in the lane no matter who's guarding her, this creates open shots for our scorers. When Ivory is in hoisting up 3's, if she's not making them--the other teams can crowd the lane and out rebound. As evident tonight. Both players are good, but diff. And LOL at you wankstas playing the race card. (in regards to shalee/ivory) Learn about B-Ball systems and stop with the archaic talk.....Anyway Hopefully Mique will be back when we go to LA, to return the favor... Now please tell me why this statement even required a response going at me? Was it the wanksta comment at the end? It was clearly not addressed to anyone in particular---anyone who responded to that, must've felt guilty imo. And if it's inappropriate to threaten someone, you definitely aren't talking about me-- because I was the one threatened as he admitted that and it's still there for people to see. I choose to take on anyone posing threats to me, that makes me be the defender. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT EVERYTHING SINCE THAT POST WRITTEN BY ME WAS IN RESPONSE TO OTHERS..Here's what a real troll is: Someone who doesn't read and already has their mind made up about a situation because it involves someone they're cool with..You read the last posts and saw 2-3 people going at 1 person and thought you could look cool by posting up this captain save a board stuff. Objectivity is also at a premium on this board. LIKE I HAVE SAID every post, and I have clearly demonstrated in the few posts I had here before these series of posts--This board is about the Dream!! Let's keep the talk on the franchise...
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Post by stud07 on Aug 25, 2009 13:42:26 GMT -5
sorry I'm so late guys. But I was at the Sparks vs US game and it was an amazing atmosphere. I have tons of cool pictures too. I was sitting 3 rows behind the dream bench. I was yelling the entire time that Latta should have been starting this game. Lehning was always struggling when defending the point guard. Plus Latta is so much more entertaining with her trash talk. Her and Bobbits exchanges were awesome! And plus Lehning had 3 points in 21 minutes of play with Latta at 18 minutes dropped 10. This is why no one guards Lehning. Like I have said before she has so much heart and I'm glad she plays for us. But MM is coming around. She closed the half and the game with Latta on the floor. And when Latta was upset she came over and rubbed her back. Maybe whatever disagreements they had are over, because she clearly got more playing time.
It also hurt that Betty burned us over and over again. Those 14 points should have been ours. Imagine if our starting lineup was Holdsclaw, Latta, Lyttle, Lennox and DeSouza. Boy oh boy we would be on point. How did you guys feel about McCoughtry's start?
I also wanted to point out that everytime Izi is the player of the game we lose. That should say something. I had to cover my eyes everytime she dribbled. She is so nerve racking!!!! And to this new guy on here talking s**t. You should chill out. Jaye is one of the most respected posters on here, and well you're the nobody. Earn yours first partner.
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Post by lattafan on Aug 25, 2009 14:18:06 GMT -5
. Jaye is one of the most respected posters on here... xLattafan________________
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