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Post by jaye on Jul 27, 2010 17:53:27 GMT -5
i doubt very seriously whether her teammates dislike her.... but players get on each others nerves.... just like family members.... doesn't mean that care and respect aren't there.... but even siblings can grow to dislike each other given enough time and friction.... angel will grow up... and she's going to be a star in this league until she quits... we're just talking about situations as they are now....
but as to her pouting and scowling.... it's well documented that it got to be a problem at louisville.... angel is a super talent... but angel is also a diva.... it's not bashing.... it just is.... plenty of diva's in the league.... past and present
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Post by ljohnverrell on Aug 13, 2010 18:31:29 GMT -5
.... plenty of diva's in the league.... past and present True that. I give head WNBA DIVA honors to Lisa Leslie.
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Post by scarab on Aug 15, 2010 12:42:48 GMT -5
Recent tweet by Angel about Raven and Raven's response:
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Post by atlDreamgirl13 on Sept 6, 2010 23:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by julesmax on Sept 7, 2010 22:09:45 GMT -5
Right, Angel is a real cancer. New playoff record, 42 points with 3 rebounds, 4 assists, and 5 steals. More steals than the rest of the team. We better trade her before she destroys the team.
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Post by scarab on Sept 8, 2010 15:06:17 GMT -5
No one ever said Angel was a 'cancer.' It was just pointed out that she has some maturing to do regarding her on-court attitude and how it affects the team...which she even admitted to in the article atlDreamgirl13 just posted.
I'm loving watching her grow.
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Post by jaye on Sept 15, 2010 23:29:58 GMT -5
interesting observation.... in game two.... when desouza was mad about a call and was talking to a ref about it... armintie came over and tried to get her away.... she tried talking to her... and then put a hand on desouza's shoulder.... desouza swatted it away..... it's a small thing... and doesn't mean that desouza has any bad feelings for any of her teammates.... but it goes back to us not having a team leader.... someone that everyone will defer to because of respect for that players cred.... someone that can stop the less mature players that we have in their tracks when they start going into one of their hissies....
people can say what they want about claw... but when she talked.... every teammate listened....
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Post by myrtlefan on Sept 16, 2010 14:03:47 GMT -5
Angel is a great player!! However, she dosen't know when to quit shooting the ball! I know sometimes she gets back on track but she can also hurt the team...especially like in the last 2 games. They did better when she was not in the game. She has a great career in front of her but she does need to work on her attitude. Jaye, I agree we do need a leader...somebody needs to step up, but who?
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Post by ljohnverrell on Sept 16, 2010 23:56:24 GMT -5
Angel is learning and growing. Can't wait to see her next year. She isn't quite a leader yet. She needs some more seasons. I think if Mique were still on the team, we may have had that championship trophy, (which wasn't as impressive to look at in person as I thought it would be btw). Angel needs a few more seasons under her and she'll step up.
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Post by lea87 on Sept 17, 2010 8:23:03 GMT -5
What some of you seem to forget is that this is her 2ND YEAR in this league, not 5th or 10th. She can only get better. She's 24 years old, and still lead her team to the finals. Now people know who Angel McCoughtry is. IMO she is already one of the top 5-10 players in the league.
Also, I think a lot of the hate that Angel gets on here, is from Holdsclaw fans who can not let go of her, she's not coming back folks. We did all of this WITHOUT her.
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Post by jaye on Sept 17, 2010 12:09:35 GMT -5
it's not hate.... it's honest criticism..... it's evaluation.... hate is when you maliciously lie on someone.... we know how long she's been in the league.... and the traits she had when she was in college are the same ones that she's got now.... her game is steadily improving.... but her mentality isn't... that's just a fact... not hate... and at times it effects her game... and her team....
as for claw not coming back.... and that the team went on without her.... why point out the obvious.... but do you seriously think that we wouldn't have had a better chance to beat seattle with a healthy claw.... speculation on that isn't "not letting her go".... it's simply speculation... it's what fans do....
nobody hates angel because of claw.... that's just childish... we'd love to see angel grow up and really become a leader.... but as of yet... she isn't.... if you wish to ignore that... that's your choice.... if we don't... that's ours....
angel b**ched and complained at the end about a foul that her team wanted her to give and direly needed... ;D that's a little far from growing up.... jmo
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Post by lea87 on Sept 17, 2010 14:35:48 GMT -5
It's the truth, not that I expect anyone on here to admit that is the reason why. You don't have to like Angel being emotional on the court lol. FACT is we DO NOT even make the playoffs without her, and certainly would not have a winning record. WE had Claw last year and she did nothing for us. Angel is a budding superstar, will only continue to get better, Even if some of her own fans don't appreciate her talents yet... my opinion..
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Post by ljohnverrell on Sept 17, 2010 18:18:14 GMT -5
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Post by jaye on Sept 17, 2010 18:36:12 GMT -5
It's the truth, not that I expect anyone on here to admit that is the reason why. You don't have to like Angel being emotional on the court lol. FACT is we DO NOT even make the playoffs without her, and certainly would not have a winning record. WE had Claw last year and she did nothing for us. Angel is a budding superstar, will only continue to get better, Even if some of her own fans don't appreciate her talents yet... my opinion.. claw helped us to the playoffs in our second season... and when she went down.... the difference in our composure was striking.... and you're reading a lot into people's statements... why don't you just concentrate on what they ACTUALLY say..... just like no one said that angel was a cancer.... no one has said that they don't appreciate her talents.... and most of us have been following basketball for more than a few years.... myself since 1960.... we know that we don't make the playoffs without angel.... i'm not saying this maliciously... cause you seem like a very nice person.... but if you can't stand constructive criticism of your fav... then maybe you shouldn't be on message boards.... where a variety of opinions are going to be expressed.... i'm not sure how you feel that people mentioning claw is disrespectful to angel.... when people bring up claw they are expressing discontent with mm and her decisions... and her actions.... how you're interpreting it to mean "we hate angel" is beyond me....
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Post by ljohnverrell on Oct 12, 2010 14:23:45 GMT -5
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