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Post by ljohnverrell on Jun 26, 2011 18:34:12 GMT -5
Wow, no thread for this game during the game or 2 hours AFTER the game? Ok, I'll vent now. We had this game but missed entirely too many easy shots. Our game is get the ball to Erica and if not that, everyone drives and throw up the ball at the rim. Not a good thing. On the bright side - Courtney Paris! Love her! Coco Miller played her butt off! Even Price looked good! Lindsey Harding -- um, the crowd starting leaving when she missed those two free throws late. Not happy about the trade at all now. As for the player who bobbleheads where past out this game -- shes frustrated because shes being taken out of the game for long stretches. Anyone notice how ticked off Angel was at her "coaches" when she hit that 3 in the closing seconds? Somethings gotta give.
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Post by idream22 on Jun 26, 2011 18:53:59 GMT -5
I didn't get a bobblehead, (was late) but caught a lucky dog parachute and a t-shirt.
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Post by atlDreamgirl13 on Jun 26, 2011 19:21:19 GMT -5
i was going to vent, but instead, im going to bang on my THUNDERSTX...
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Post by idream22 on Jun 26, 2011 19:28:01 GMT -5
i was going to vent, but instead, im going to bang on my THUNDERSTX... I broke my AARON THUNDERSTX after Danielle Robinson made that 3 point play over 4 Dream players.
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Post by dream06 on Jun 27, 2011 6:06:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately we have to look at the reality of things...part of us loosing is the coaches and the others is the players. We have the second worst coach in the league right now (I think N Richardson is the worst, atleast for Tulsa but I am almost saying that I would rather have him). First: you take Paris out after she is killing (granted, she may need a break but PLAY her, shes being a GROWN WOMAN DOWN LOW). Second: Miller gets hot and you take her out the game? What! And for Price (now I do have to say, Price has improved offensively alot and her defense is killer BUT Miller is HOT, dont take her out when the game is so close). Lastly: Why isnt Angel playing basketball, shes our franchise player and dont even play! Coach wake up! You cant put her in with 3 minutes left and say go out there and win it (bc we all know she will try but that creates forced shots sometimes especially when shes sat for so long). We are too good of a team to have this record! Our Coach is playing angry birds on her phone while the game is on (Im convinced!). Now the players part...even though the line-ups are not what we want them to be...the Dream have to bond together:somehow someway! We made it that far last year because of our bond not bc of our head Coach! We have to keep our temper and know that the refs arent going to get every call right BUT we still have to play ball!
Bright spot: Miller shooting well, Harding is starting to have more confidence playing with us (not great yet BUT I do see her feeling more comfortable), and Paris "She goes hard and I love it!
Dim spots: Our Coach is a good GM but cant coach on this level...Im sorry BUT this has to change! Castro isnt producing like she normally does: Im use to the inconsistency of her game but as an AVERAGE (combining her ups and downs) she was averaging 17 points last yr...we need that!
Even though Britany Raven didnt play much she brought encouragement to the bench, energy, and a smile...thats something we are missing now...this new 3 point shooter we got this yr is missing all that and oh yeah...she cant shoot either...why is she here? Atleast Raven cheered well!
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Post by ljohnverrell on Jun 27, 2011 11:32:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately we have to look at the reality of things...part of us loosing is the coaches and the others is the players. We have the second worst coach in the league right now (I think N Richardson is the worst, atleast for Tulsa but I am almost saying that I would rather have him). First: you take Paris out after she is killing (granted, she may need a break but PLAY her, shes being a GROWN WOMAN DOWN LOW). Second: Miller gets hot and you take her out the game? What! And for Price (now I do have to say, Price has improved offensively alot and her defense is killer BUT Miller is HOT, dont take her out when the game is so close). Lastly: Why isnt Angel playing basketball, shes our franchise player and dont even play! Coach wake up! You cant put her in with 3 minutes left and say go out there and win it (bc we all know she will try but that creates forced shots sometimes especially when shes sat for so long). We are too good of a team to have this record! Our Coach is playing angry birds on her phone while the game is on (Im convinced!). Now the players part...even though the line-ups are not what we want them to be...the Dream have to bond together:somehow someway! We made it that far last year because of our bond not bc of our head Coach! We have to keep our temper and know that the refs arent going to get every call right BUT we still have to play ball! Bright spot: Miller shooting well, Harding is starting to have more confidence playing with us (not great yet BUT I do see her feeling more comfortable), and Paris "She goes hard and I love it! Dim spots: Our Coach is a good GM but cant coach on this level...Im sorry BUT this has to change! Castro isnt producing like she normally does: Im use to the inconsistency of her game but as an AVERAGE (combining her ups and downs) she was averaging 17 points last yr...we need that! Even though Britany Raven didnt play much she brought encouragement to the bench, energy, and a smile...thats something we are missing now...this new 3 point shooter we got this yr is missing all that and oh yeah...she cant shoot either...why is she here? Atleast Raven cheered well! OMG! If that bow down smiley was on here -- I'd use it for you! Every word you say in this post is TRUTH! I didn't sit close enough this last game, but please tell me that our "coach" was NOT playing a video game during game play for real? Thats just crazy!!! There was a huge chant to PUT IN PARIS!!! from the fans behind the basket and finally huge cheer when the "coach" did!!!
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Post by idream22 on Jun 27, 2011 12:28:30 GMT -5
Dream06, we are definitely as Martin Lawrence would say HERE... Lets get the Dream owners there. (and Happy Birthday)
We do have the second worst coach in the league. That COTY award and last years run has blinded the Dream owners into keeping Meadors. If the Dream players want to win, they need to have Ross step up and take control of the team like she did last year.
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Post by gort on Jun 27, 2011 15:04:01 GMT -5
I hate to be redundant but the problem is that they are all trying to win the game but not playing as a team. It's all able the individual putting the ball up no matter how many defenders are on them. Every team is colapsing on Izzy and Angel because they know it's going up no matter what. Opposition players never guard the other players because Izzy and Angel will not pass.
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Post by dream06 on Jun 27, 2011 16:21:49 GMT -5
Well Gort, I do think sometimes they go 1 on 3...true BUT you have to look deeper into it. Assist dont always tell the TRUTH about passing...Assist only counts if they person they pass too hits the shot. Unfortunately our drive and kick out is not that affective bc only Miller, Castro, and Angel (sometimes) can hit the 3 ball. Bales can hit the 3 but she takes so few that it doesnt count. When you have Price or Shalee in the game teams play off of them bc they are not a jump shot (short or 3 pointer) threat. Harding can hit a 3 every so often but teams arent scared of her so they will play off her too...that was the point of us getting that 3 point specialist (you know they one that cant shoot...lol)! You are valid in saying we could pass more BUT we need to pass inside and not out...the only thing about that is that if teams are already crowding the inside its hard to get the ball in there. All in all I think when Lyttle gets back we will be ok bc our rebound game will be back (the combination of Lyttle, Erica, Paris, and if Luechenka would come back like they say...NO ONE will be able to hang with us). With rebounding comes running...and there is NO team that can run with us! Right now...Angel is having to do to much rebounding...banging down low with a bum knee is not safe and gets tiresome...plus puts her under the goal alot having to run further...
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Post by dream06 on Jun 27, 2011 16:22:17 GMT -5
oh and idream22...thanks for the birthday shout out!
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Post by gort on Jun 27, 2011 19:42:27 GMT -5
Dream06, You got part of my point, I agree that we do not have the outside shooting for kickouts for 3's. But if you watch the game, Izzy and Angel had folks open for short jumpers from the sides of the basket. If we do that, the D must stay home and things will open for Angel and Izzy but teams know they will not feed the ball to others. Erica can make that shot from the side of the key as can Bales. I also think you are right about Bales, she needs to shoot more. I saw her get a couple of offensive rebounds but she passed out to the guards to set up the offense instead of putting it back up.
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Post by jaye on Jun 29, 2011 13:44:54 GMT -5
if you're waiting for either izi or angel to give up the ball once they go into their move... you're going to be waiting for an awful.... awful long time....
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Post by gort on Jun 29, 2011 18:32:21 GMT -5
My point exactly. Defenses know that and they are merely collapsing in on them but they keep trying to shoot. They need to play as a team and they will get their points and more importantly they may get a win. Watch all the great players in the game today and you'll see them make the right play not just put up the shot no matter what.
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Post by jaye on Jun 29, 2011 21:01:59 GMT -5
then we'd better come up with a plan B... cause izi and angel are gonna shoot....
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Post by atlDreamgirl13 on Jun 30, 2011 15:03:27 GMT -5
if you're waiting for either izi or angel to give up the ball once they go into their move... you're going to be waiting for an awful.... awful long time.... lol...u so right...
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